叙述者: 淑惠
•星期日, 八月 17, 2008
As a parent, we always wish to give the kids the best. When come to choose formula milk, I believe most of you also headache on which to choose.
My Chloe currently consuming Dumex Dugro while Ryan is on Enfagrow A+.
Last week, Ryan is having diarrhoea and thus we went to buy a small tin of Similac LH for him. When we were there at the chinese medical hall, we asked the shop owner what is the different in between all the famous formula milk. He told us Enfagrow is now not as good as before they changed it. Wyeth is better quality if compare to Enfagrow. Why?
He told us, after MJ add 4X DHA, they already take out SA and ARA. If you notice the new packing clealy, they don't stated there any SA or ARA anymore. He told us they are using animal fat instead of plant fat to make the milk now. Animal protein/fat is more diffucult to absorb by the kids. He said animal protein/fat is cheap range of nutricient but they are selling it at expensive branded price.
I checked online at MJ webside today, when i click on their nutricient fact, the SA and ARA is still there in the list for Enfagrow A+.
I am now confused if Enfagrow A+ is good or Wyeth Gold better?? 
Do you have any idea?
 
chypenny wrote on Aug 17, '08
thanks for this posting Sh, :D am still considering which brand, as wanted to change for my son too. i think this 4 x DHA makes them poo more? "easy digest" really makes them digest too much i guess., hehehehe
twinsdiary wrote on Aug 17, '08
maybe it's time to change formula for Ryan.. too many brands in da market.. i also confuse. before this, my gals took Snow. but after 1 yr old, we changes to Dutch Lady n they seems dun like da taste. we change it back to Snow 1-3 but they got poo poo hard. So after few changes, they now stick to Mamil Gold step 3. 

u can try to get some samples let Ryan try whether he's suitable with it. some say pedisure is good but my fren's dotter dun like it.. so it really depands on the individual. hope u find a suitable 1 for Ryan :)
vickylow wrote on Aug 17, '08
Yes I going to change to other brand too. New range Enfagrow cause C got hard stool and constipation. Bought Mamil gold which contain IMMUNOFORTIS that benefit the stomach and for soft stool bowel movement. Yet to try it as the current formula still got plenty.
wynethchia wrote on Aug 18, '08
vickylow said
Yes I going to change to other brand too. New range Enfagrow cause C got hard stool and constipation. Bought Mamil gold which contain IMMUNOFORTIS that benefit the stomach and for soft stool bowel movement. Yet to try it as the current formula still got plenty. 
Is IMMUNOFORTIS good for constipation?
soohooi wrote on Aug 17, '08
Looks like Mamil Gold is very popular too hor?
I have already requested for 2 packs sample, yet to let Ryan try it.
hseetan wrote on Aug 17, '08
sorry SH! can't help on this coz both my boys are with wheth since born. 

may be what you can do is browsing their websites & find out. for better idea, why not you call them up, both enfa & wyeth & see what their representative said, then only make a decision.
chypenny wrote on Aug 17, '08
ya SH, it seems many mummy are using 'Dumex' products??
for pediasure, i find it very expensive lerrr, if the kid always like to waste milk (like my son), it seems heartache to use Pediasure lor.
elainejenni wrote on Aug 17, '08
it's very individual, some kids might very suit to certain brand but not ur kids. better survey thru their nutrition list then ask for sample and try it.. never try never know..

all those recomend brand for constipation NEVER help on my boy... ^_^
kevaned wrote on Aug 17, '08
after posted it, make me recall something too.
Kady after started the Enfa new 4X, she poo very frequent, at least 2 times a day for continuos 4 days, today's look ok already as she didn't poo early in the morning already...
elainejenni wrote on Aug 17, '08
aiya,, like very serious talk.. kekkekekeke
soohooi wrote on Aug 17, '08
Pediasure is better suit for those babies who dun like solid food, depend solely on milk for nutrient.
Dr will also advice to take pediasure if baby under weight or lack of nutrient.
soohooi wrote on Aug 17, '08
Jenn, sample is 2 packs only wor, wonder if could feel the different with only 2 feedings?
hseetan wrote on Aug 17, '08
soohooi said
Jenn, sample is 2 packs only wor, wonder if could feel the different with only 2 feedings? 
SH,
get the sample from their paed, normally they have those sample in small tin @ 400gm or 450gm...
chypenny wrote on Aug 17, '08
evane, kady poo frequent too? after taking new enfagrow?? hmm another person proving here.
SH, do u think we shd try mamil gold? last two days my ryan poo 2 times per day, already consider less
chypenny wrote on Aug 17, '08
SH with only 2 packings, cannot see the difference wan, the sample is to try our kids whether can accept the new taste? if can, only buy one tin to try the result
elainejenni wrote on Aug 17, '08
yes SH, two pack if to try if kids accept the taste, if ok, then u only try on small tin..
kevaned wrote on Aug 17, '08
But i think Kady love the milk more recently, not sure the taste has also change?
Young is now consuming Enfagrow 4X too, but he has no problem at all.
soohooi wrote on Aug 17, '08
Ryan is not choosy on milk, guess he will accept all. Now giving him Similac he also ok with it.
vickylow wrote on Aug 17, '08
Mamil gold contain Oligo, it's good sugar right?
peimun78 wrote on Aug 18, '08
can't help coz Kendra never take this 2 formula before....... 
chyen79 wrote on Aug 18, '08, edited on Aug 18, '08
since you started this topic, may I know those formula with honey taste, is that ok for kids? more sweet?
wynethchia wrote on Aug 18, '08
I feel Enfagrow and Wyeth are same, both also heaty.
soohooi wrote on Aug 18, '08
Vivian, i seldom let my kids drink flavour milk, will only give them original.
I never taste the milk before, no idea if they are sweeter.
chyen79 wrote on Aug 18, '08
i heard one lady told me b4, she said she let her son drink Enfagrow honey taste and can poo easily compare to those original one.. Actually I also prefer original.
soohooi wrote on Aug 18, '08
Wyneth, immunofortis is to build stronger immune system. So that kids not easily fall sick. Guess that is nothing to do with constipation?
vickylow wrote on Aug 18, '08
This is the info I got from dumex site: -
IMMUNOFORTIS™ helps increase intestinal bifidobacteria and helps maintain a good intestinal environment.

A major part of the immune system lies in the gastrointestinal tract. A healthy immune system will help to improve your child’s body resistance.

IMMUNOFORTIS™ also stimulates the bowel movement and increases water content of the stools, thus promoting softer stool for easy bowel movement.
wynethchia wrote on Aug 18, '08
vickylow said
This is the info I got from dumex site: -
IMMUNOFORTIS™ helps increase intestinal bifidobacteria and helps maintain a good intestinal environment.

A major part of the immune system lies in the gastrointestinal tract. A healthy immune system will help to improve your child’s body resistance.

IMMUNOFORTIS™ also stimulates the bowel movement and increases water content of the stools, thus promoting softer stool for easy bowel movement.
other than mamil gold, what food can increse the IMMUNOFORTIS™
thebangprincess wrote on Aug 18, '08
adrina on wyeth Prgress since 1yr old. She ok with that. No enfa can be found in this country lor. I doubt u can find it in any Enfa in other country beside Msia, Singapore, Phillipines, Brunei. 

* when i'm back in Msia.. i wanted to get the new Enfa for adrina to try but my sister(no kid) ask me not to believe in the 4xdha... not good for kid. Well, i'm not sure la but i only get one to try. She prefer DUMEX dugro with cereal. And now i can see she got more "isi"
peimun78 wrote on Aug 18, '08
I tried to give Kendra the Pediasure chocolate flavor...at first few feed, she like it. Then I go and buy the 900gm one.... after 1 or 2 feed from the new try, she told me that she don't like this Pediasure anymore, ask me to give her back her Isomil..... 

At first, i tot she is bored with her Isomil since she had been taking it for more than a year and wish to give her a new taste.... manatau, she still prefer her Isomil
imcf wrote on Aug 18, '08
peimun78 said
I tried to give Kendra the Pediasure chocolate flavor...at first few feed, she like it. Then I go and buy the 900gm one.... after 1 or 2 feed from the new try, she told me that she don't like this Pediasure anymore, ask me to give her back her Isomil..... 

At first, i tot she is bored with her Isomil since she had been taking it for more than a year and wish to give her a new taste.... manatau, she still prefer her Isomil
PM, i hv oso let Ashley to try Pediasure choc flavour when she was abt 1.5 yo but she rejected it oso after i bought a 900 gm during d Guardian sales. So i continued wz her similac/EyeQ till she is abt 2.5yo i try again wz Pediasure vanila but dis time she is OK wz it! So i started to giv her Pediasure till now loh. In between i hv tried Enfagrow n she loves it so i bought another 2 X1.8kg tin during sales but alas she rejected it after finished wz 1/2 tin of d 1st tin! ..... she asked for her 'nice nen nen' again which is d pediasure. I thot i can save a bit of $ by changing to Enfa but...... my 'boss' has changed her mind pulak....
peimun78 wrote on Aug 18, '08
imcf said
PM, i hv oso let Ashley to try Pediasure choc flavour when she was abt 1.5 yo but she rejected it oso after i bought a 900 gm during d Guardian sales. So i continued wz her similac/EyeQ till she is abt 2.5yo i try again wz Pediasure vanila but dis time she is OK wz it! So i started to giv her Pediasure till now loh. In between i hv tried Enfagrow n she loves it so i bought another 2 X1.8kg tin during sales but alas she rejected it after finished wz 1/2 tin of d 1st tin! ..... she asked for her 'nice nen nen' again which is d pediasure. I thot i can save a bit of $ by changing to Enfa but...... my 'boss' has changed her mind pulak.... 
Vicky,
Yalor......sometimes just can't treat them so well....... I scare she will get bored with her nen nen and changed for her, manatau.....wated my $$$
mingchoo21 wrote on Aug 18, '08
I switched Emily fr Enfa to Anmum Essential due to the increase in price, i don really agree in them saying adding this & that & bring up de price. I dono why in my mind, Wyeth is quite good, but heard is heaty. U may ask Alice for more info, coz she's 100% Wyeth loyal supporter :p
** She's now not so active in M, coz she bz voting her Yu Xuan ^_^
soohooi wrote on Aug 18, '08
Thanks for sharing.

Busy voting Yu Xuan? Hahaha...
soohooi wrote on Aug 18, '08
Peimun, Isomil is not cow milk, it is purely soya right? 
Not many kids can take Isomil, it taste diff.
soohooi wrote on Aug 18, '08
I think Sustagen gua? Since it is more to build up the body system.
vickylow wrote on Aug 18, '08
Ya agreed with SH bout the Sustagen.
comfybebe wrote on Aug 18, '08
As I blogged earlier.. kids were on Enfa and now moved to Dugro. So far so good. Cheaper and no problem so I am sticking to this for now :) Hehehe.
thebangprincess wrote on Aug 18, '08
comfybebe said
As I blogged earlier.. kids were on Enfa and now moved to Dugro. So far so good. Cheaper and no problem so I am sticking to this for now :) Hehehe. 
Sha, did u join the contest? hee hee
comfybebe wrote on Aug 18, '08
Sha, did u join the contest? hee hee 
No wor... how to join ah? :P
thebangprincess wrote on Aug 18, '08
comfybebe said
No wor... how to join ah? :P 
Sha, just cut the 50yrs logo and submit photo with the application form (from any supermarket) before 15 Sept
soohooi wrote on Aug 18, '08
Sha, which means you already switch to Dugro for your kids?
comfybebe wrote on Aug 18, '08
Yes SH... now both are on Dugro already :D So far so good. Both love the milk. Even Glenn said he prefers Dugro taste compared to Enfa wor. So Mommy and Daddy very happy!!! Get good milk, cheaper price and kids love it :)
imcf wrote on Aug 18, '08
Haahhaha June u r stil thinking abt d contest ah?
thebangprincess wrote on Aug 18, '08, edited on Aug 18, '08
imcf said
Haahhaha June u r stil thinking abt d contest ah? 
something like that Vicky... bcos since they are still young and still within the requirement. Anyway, i bought many packets of Dugro back to Dubai too... can last for few months.
rinajee wrote on Aug 18, '08
I switch my girl formula from Enfa to Fernleft.At first ok,but after 2nd package,she poo poo become hard & greenish color.No choice back to Enfa.But will try Anmum Essential,but now at market only got Honey flavour.I think they are clearing stock.So have to wait loh! And Anmum gift look very attractive too. :P
pcli wrote on Aug 19, '08
just my 2 cents... i dont believe in 4XDHA. even if the scientist did it, i would feel that it is not originally milk anymore.
anyone tested how high is breastmilk's DHA? 

another factor to consent is that, whether the body absorbing as much as 4XDHA or not. just like iron in spinach, supplements in multi-vitamins, individually absorption is different.

i would still think to focus in encouraging hy's solid.
wynethchia wrote on Aug 19, '08
pcli said
just my 2 cents... i dont believe in 4XDHA. even if the scientist did it, i would feel that it is not originally milk anymore.
anyone tested how high is breastmilk's DHA? 

another factor to consent is that, whether the body absorbing as much as 4XDHA or not. just like iron in spinach, supplements in multi-vitamins, individually absorption is different.

i would still think to focus in encouraging hy's solid.
 
Agree with that, PC Lee. Not everybody can absorb as much as 4XDHA.
The formula which have DHA was heaty already, after taken 4X DHA, i believe not everyone can absorb it. If not absorb, then will easy to get sick.
chypenny wrote on Aug 20, '08
SH i have just bought mamil gold 3, to let ryan try, if his poo poo schedule improves, meaning this enfagrow caused him poo few times a day, and i will totally shift to new brand, and cheaper wor!
soohooi wrote on Aug 20, '08
Penny, keep us updated on progress.
sallychoo wrote on Aug 20, '08
SooHooi,
I am giving Chloe Enfagrow 1-3 and Cate's on S26 Gold. SO far so good. As far as what the chinese med hall ppl telling u what has been taken out, I am not sure unless he really did a research on it :p Haha..Anyway, Chloe seems fine to me and I don't see why I should be changing her formula as long as she is ok with it. I think the most important thing is we are giving them a healthy and balanced diet which inclides a good source of calcium.
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